Colt series 80 trigger pull

There was no creep and the trigger broke like glass with every pull. On the series 80, a pivoting link is actuated by the trigger pull, pushing the firing pin block up and unblocking the firing pin. A knowledgeable gunsmith can create a very clean trigger pull on your gun, with all series 80 components intact and fully functional. Reduces the creep and jump in the takeup thats inherent in these guns. If you have the hammer on the series 80 quarter cock ledge and pull the trigger, the hammer will fall but with no where near enough force to discharge the pistol. The defender is a series 80 gun, which means that the internal passive firingpin safety is retained on this handgun. A good smith can make the series 80 colt have a great trigger pull that you will love.

The mainspring determines the pull weight, so a lighter spring. Wasnt there a quality problem colt had when they were producing the series 80. The pull on a s 80 pistol has this extra mush in the travel, and thats the mechanism pushing that spring force of the firing pin block out of the way. The gun is perfectly reliable now and i am very happy with it. The series 70 made a comeback in 2002 in the new retro line named the mk iv series 70 government model. Series 80 guns have a few more parts to polish so rather than polish more parts they pull out the extra parts and install a spacer in the right hand side of the frame. I was on a budget and i like the look and feel of the colt 1991a1 although the springfield and taurus 1911s definitely were also good options that i was considering. However his trigger has way more travel until firing than mine.

Mine is a 20 desert eagle 1911 g which is a series 70. In defensecarry guns where a fourpound or heavier pull is necessary, the added friction of the series 80 parts adds little or nothing to the pull weight or feel. The pull is smooth and has a clean break, and the match barrel offers excellent accuracy. Colt series 80 government 1911addicts the premiere 1911. Colt 1911 1991 government series 80 is this a good deal. What the cylinder and slide kit does is reduce the stack at the end of the trigger pull. I hear this pistol has a firing pin block making condition 2 safe.

In 1991 colt revamped their 1911 line by turning the basic government model into a. This is an intriguing change, one that should hit the mark with traditionalists and shooters who are after the snappiest trigger pull possible. Hi, i just entered the world of 1911s with a colt 1991a1. Bypassing the series 80 safety components on the 1911 pistol.

On mine, just pressing the trigger a little and it goes boom. Some people say the triggeractuated firing pin block on these guns makes for a trigger pull thats anything but smooth and crisp. The series 80 safety system requires a minimum amount of trigger travel for the mechanism to allow the firing pin block to move out of the way of the firing pin. Not in the video but also used in comparison were two unfired colt m1991a1 series 80 pistols. The series 80 added a spring and a plunger to the things the trigger had to do.

Colt competition pistol line now uses series 70 firing. I style thumb safety on the left side and a shortened grip safety. Both series 80 guns exhibited a bit of creep prior to a crisp break. Series 70 vs 80, the difference is more than you think. When adjusting the set screw of an adjustable trigger on a series 80 pistol, you cannot set the travel to minimum as you would with a non series 80 pistol. On the series 80, a pivoting link is actuated by the trigger pull. The colt series 80, m1991 government model incorporates a few modern improvements compared to the original m1911 government model pistol. A friend brought his newly purchased, worked over 3 lb trigger colt to show me. Working on my colt xse series 80, it sure looks like the firing pin plunger spring is the source of about 1. The common method of improving series 80 trigger pull is exactly the same as on a non series 80 gun. He has an 197080s colt gold cup which is a series 80. Anyway, i bought it on thursday and took it to the range on saturday. It utilizes a series 80 firing system and more closely resembles the original m1911 that was used in world war i versus the m1911a1 that was used in world war ii through vietnam.

M1911 m1911a1 stock colt light pull sear spring blued. After installation the singleaction trigger pull is 3. The new colt series 80 also incorporated the new barrel bushing of the series 70, while being more reminiscent of the original m1911 by having a long trigger and flat mainspring housing. Colt series 80 adjustable trigger installation note. The series 80 hammer uses more of a quarter cock ledge, the thoughts on the hammer hooks is they could fracture and the ledge would not. When youre an experienced 1911 aficionado, you can tell a series 80 pistol by merely picking it up, racking the slide and then testing the trigger pull. This firing pin safety block had a safety plunger and was a springloaded pin operated by the trigger, and its purpose was to prevent droppedgun negligent and accidental discharges. Sample shots from todays blog post colt s series 70 trigger put to the test series 70 vs. Subsequently, it features a longer trigger and flattened mainspring housing, with a standard g. Trigger pull will have to be longer than a pre 80 because the trigger works the levers that push up the plunger in the slide to free the firing pin, but this is not something that sticks out for most shooters. It was incorporated to make the 1911 more drop safe, a great solution to a non existent problem.

Colt merely used the series 70 designation with the new guns as a means of identifying all pistols not using the firing pin safety system. Well, the series 80 is a number of features added to the basic colt pistol which. A short video on how to remove the series 80 safety modifications on a. To get the best pull i tested each component of the trigger pull and found little impact on the trigger pull by this trigger actuated firing pin safety. Remove the levers too and replace them with one of these. This is a discussion on colt government m1911a1 series 80 within the handguns forums, part of the gun forum category. Colt series 708090 firearms talk the community for. Adding parts isnt needed to convert a series 80 backwards,, just start leaving parts out, the lever, the plunger, the spring. The video below shows how the series 70 stacked up against a blued, 2014vintage colt m1991a1 series 80. Should you buy or modify a series 80 or series 70 1911. On my lyman trigger pull gauge from brownells, the readout. In fact, the series 80 guns have a trigger action which is inferior to the series 70. Similar to the transfer bar safety common to doubleaction revolvers.

Titaniumnitrided parts, with an exclusive molydisulfide coating, reduce trigger pull weight without risky modifications to series 80 colts firing pin safety system. Just long enough to get the wallet out and hand them my drivers license for the batf form. Colt dumping old series 80 new in the box guns on market. Discussion in gunsmithing and repairs started by eric f, aug 14, 2009. Series 80 trigger pull 1911style pistols brian enoss forums. Extra parts, but the trigger on my lw commander feels right to me. The thing about the series 80 trigger is that you feel resistance at the end of the trigger pull, as the trigger slightly stacks right before it breaks, kind of like most polymerframe strikerfired pistols. In about 1983, the series 80 1911 was introduced with a key feature of a triggeractivated firing pin safety. Minor fitting to get the trigger in and the spring was a drop in. While some claim that colt s series 80 firing system has a detrimental effect on the trigger pull, according to my trigger pull scale on the pistol i received, five pounds of pressure on the trigger. Using the knowledge i gained from the first two guns, i decided to work on an old. Contains firing pin block plunger, national match plunger lever, trigger lever, hammer pin and sear pin. Items shipped from our own warehouse can be shipped much sooner than items shipped direct to you from one of our fulfillment suppliers. Previously, they were outfitted with series 80 firing systems.

A good gunsmith can do an excellent trigger job on a series 80 and still leave all the safety parts in place, although he will probably charge a little more than if the gun were a. Its 4 additional parts that are trigger actuated to unblock the firing pin to allow the 1911 to fire. How to bypass colt 1911 series 80 safety system with trigger job. For carry or competition, you cant beat wilson combat triggers.

I replaced the stock sear spring and trigger in my colt mk iv series 80 government model. The biggest change in the series 80 is the firing pin block. The decision to buy that series 80 colt at 600 bucks would take me maybe 5 seconds on a bad day. He has an 1970 80s colt gold cup which is a series 80. Removing the series 80 parts, using the shim and my modest stone and polishing talents gets me a good clean pull. As dyspeptic gunsmith has pointed out, one can simply add a low mass firing pin and an extra power firing pin spring to prevent a discharge in the unlikely event that the gun is dropped on a hard surface and falls on the muzzle. Due to the recent increase in order volume, shipping on some items may be delayed up to 15 business days or longer. Colt s series 70 trigger put to the test series 70 vs. Among the most noticeable of these are an extended tang on the grip safety to help prevent hammer bite and improved patridgetype sights for faster, more accurate aiming. Colt colt series 70 vs series 80 triggers 1911addicts. My government series 80 has a trigger that needs no work. Parts are wire edm cut from bar stock, honed and polished, then heat treated for years of service life. I know personally that clean and safe trigger pulls as low as 3 12 lbs.

I did a trigger job this gun with dropin match parts. Although not recommended by any manufacturer removing this safety system will make your series 80 1911 trigger better. Reduces series 80 trigger pull approximately one pound. I dont have a colt series 80, but i have a taurus with the series 80 firing pin safety, and i like it. Tune a series 80 1911 trigger with these 3 easy tricks. First was the addition of a triggeractuated firing pin block. In 1983 the series 80 models were introduced with the new firing pin safety system, which guarded against an accidental discharge should a loaded pistol be dropped onto a hard surface. Each kit is tested on a series 70style frame to make certain it will produce the specified pull weight with little or no fitting. Colts series 70 trigger put to the test series 70 vs.

I always wondered where the hate for the 80 s came from, too. The series 70 and previous models could be dropfired if dropped directly on the hammer. The elements of a trigger job on an m1911 pistol sight m1911. As you pull the trigger, two levers mounted in the frame push on the blocking pin so that it is lifted high enough to release the firing pin as. Id much rather have the series 70 guns but good trigger jobs can be. For disassembly and reassembly just youtube series 80 1911 disassembly heres a link to the trigger job s. The 1911 design was extensively tested by the military for this prior to adoption in 1911. The collet bushing was replaced with the solid bushing and the phase out was completed around 1988. Trigger pull reduction kit series 80 1911 by cylinder. Some claim that this addition makes for a heavier trigger pull. Why is a 70 series 1911 better then a 80 series 1911.

In 1983, colt released a new 1911 design dubbed the series 80 also named for the decade during which it was released with a few design changes. All the models in the colt competition pistol line will now be outfitted with series 70 firing systems. Thus, the firing pin can only move if the trigger is pulled. Tune a series 80 1911 trigger with these 3 easy tricks usa carry.

Im not a good enough shot to be able to say the series 70 trigger helps me and a series 80 does not but my trigger finger is sufficiently sensitive or tricked into believing the series 70 is better. Series 80 i noted that the trigger was not all it was cracked up to be my colt 1911 enthusiasts. Series 80 trigger pull 1911style pistols brian enoss. Even at its most polished best, it was never the crisp glass rod break that the series 70std.

Contains firing pin block plunger, national match plunger lever, trigger lever, hammer pin and sear. Shop online now and buy direct from the manufacturer. Colt trigger peacemaker g k and q frame 22 mag gun parts. Ive since repeated my experiment see video below on sidebyside comparisons between probably half a dozen new series 70 colts and the current line of series 80. The internals have been fitted and polished for a crisp trigger let off. If you want to lighten that trigger pull, the first order of business is the mainspring.